Biography Sergey Savelyev

The podcasts "My name is Sergey Savelyev, and I handed over the terrible personnel torture of prisoners." Interview of the informant Sergei Savelyev, who transmitted the archive of the video with torture ", the duration of 20.21 signatures to the video, interviews with informant Sergey Savelyev, who handed over to human rights activists the archive of the video with torture on October 19, Beloruss Sergey Savelyev, eight years ago, he ended up in the Russian prison, and then in the Saratov region.

Having gained access to the shooting. For three years, the DVRs are obliged to wear the certificates of monstrous bullying and rape of prisoners, in the end to transfer them to the human rights activists and is now going to ask for political asylum there. The largest archive of the torture in Russian prisons. Well, it's me. BBC: Can you tell you how you were in France? If possible, from September 24, if I am not mistaken, when you end up at Pulkovo Airport.

Can you tell you what happened at this airport, how did you get there at all? He flew to Pulkovo and went to the registration stance for the next flight to find out when registration begins. The girl clarified my last name and asked to wait a little. Then I immediately realized that something was wrong here. Well, where to go? A few minutes later, one man in civilian clothes approached, with him two police officers, local, from the airport.

Says: “Sergey Vladimirovich? What are you? They became more and more every five minutes, ran about a dozen in total. No one showed any certificates, no one presented it. Yes, and there was no need - it already imagined who it was. They started with a simple one - they simply examined my things. I understood that they were looking for - probably some information, there may be nothing.

I did not take - I was driving to visit. They realized that I had nothing of this with me, and took them into a separate room, where they began to conduct interrogation. They immediately laid out their cards: “There they listened to your phone, the messenger read what mail you sent all this in the know. And about all your cooperation with the [founder of Gulagu. And they began to ask questions to discredit the human rights project Gulagu.

This, of course, was some kind of surrealism, but they even said that it was by order of Osechkin. To imagine that Vladimir Osechkin recruited me so that I sat down in a Russian prison, stole some kind of array of video materials and handed it to him? Well, if I could say that you need to do the second series, you need to do plastic surgery, change the documents and go to another zone: I know that they had a choice of some options.

The fact is, they say, to sit in any case for what you did, you will sit down. Either you will fall from the shk from the second tier, or hang in the cell. They will find you hanged. Before that, you will tell us everything, and when it is no longer necessary, then ... that is, this threat is quite real, this very often happens. And then the interrogation went along with all these issues inconvenient.

And after that, already at the end, they say: well, look, now if you subscribe to cooperation with us, then we will attract you under the article "Disclosure of state secrets". There are up to four years. If not, if you begin to hide from the investigation or something else, then it will already be espionage, because you are a citizen of another state and transferred information about the Russian Federation to a foreign human rights organization.

There are from 10 to 20 years and you, he says, will not hide here anywhere - neither in Belarus, nor in Ukraine, nowhere in the CIS. We will find you everywhere. And here it became interesting to me, and the choice - where, what is the choice? That is, you immediately told me that you will plant, and they will kill me in prison. Now you are inviting me to sit for four years, and they will kill me, or sit for 20 years - and they will kill me.

What is there to choose? Can it be more humane right away? BBC: How did they let you go? That is, they have no direct evidence yet. That is, it is precisely these correspondence - how they got them there, it was unlikely that there were already any legal methods. Therefore, probably, they could not put them on the basis of the prosecution, but after they interviewed me and squeezed out of me all these testimonies, I had to show that I was working, that I was ready.

I signed some documents, the obligation of the turnout, that is, that I undertake to appear when they call me and they let me go. In addition, I did not fly away from Russia.I flew further in Russia to Novosibirsk and they were probably sure that if I tried to cross the border of the Russian Federation towards Belarus or somewhere else without their knowledge or permission, then they would see and be able to stop.

Therefore, I went to Novosibirsk from there. They released in general. BBC: And at that moment you realized that this is the end. We must run. Here I have another option already - to live or die. I chose to live - and began to look for ways to do it. I stayed in Novosibirsk, all this time they continued to unsubscribe to me at Telegram: "How much did you take the tickets back?

We must meet in Domodedovo, take a flight that will be with a transfer to Domodedovo, we will talk again for several hours and you fly to your Minsk." Well, I thought, I was sure that they would not let me go from Russia. That is, we will meet in Domodedovo - and this will be my last stop. Then they will drag me somewhere in the instances. BBC: Have you bought some kind of ticket to Domodedovo?

I flew to Domodedovo. There is no customs control, because the flight is internal, but I didn’t go to Minsk from Domodedovo, since there was no customs control and there they actually have nowhere to stop me. Therefore, I was sure that they, like the last time, would do this on registration for the next flight. Therefore, I didn’t go there - I left the airport and drove to the nearest bus station, where it was simply by minibus, private transport, which is not tracking, crossing the border with Belarus and arrived home.

BBC: Did you spend a little time in Belarus? I left, did not want to advertise this departure at all. That is, it was such a secret operation. This is such stress and fear. It was then, at that moment, it was just a panic. BBC: When did you land in Istanbul, calmed down or not? Because a completely new place, no one speaks Russian. BBC: And these people who wrote to you continued to write to you?

Did they try to get in touch somehow? One can only guess, but, judging by the fact that after three days he stopped trying to get through, then they already understood. BBC: And how long, it turns out, did you stay in Istanbul? BBC: There was already some kind of plan, where else? And I tried to immediately go v-bank and try to fly to Tunisia from Istanbul with a transfer to [airport] Charles de Goll.

BBC: Why such a difficult route? But they did not put me on a flight. They said that this is very suspicious, because we have direct flights to Tunisia. And you fly through Charles de Goll, it is very suspicious, you cannot fly so without a visa. Well, no persuasion, nothing helped. I had to stay at the airport for another day, and I picked up a straight flight to Tunisia. That is, for more than three days, the maximum I was going to linger anywhere, but it so happened that in Tunisia, people are obliged to pass quarantine without vaccinations.

That is, it also takes place in rather comfortable hotels, this is not some kind of infectious boxes or some kind of terrible hospital, no. These are comfortable hotels, there are at least three stars, a pool, adjacent territory ... That is, it's all great, but I had to spend six days there. I went to the official website of the French embassy. I was interested in the question of a transit visa.

It turned out that under certain conditions, Belarusians do not need a transit visa to France. He began to study in more detail what kind of conditions were, and it turned out that the transplant should be less than 24 hours, there should be no airport change.